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a blog dedicated to the discussion of MASTER LIMITED PARTNERSHIPS and the day to day news related to the group...along with perhaps a few other things...as long as the conversation is kept civil. Although i have no problem telling you what i am doing regarding my trades...PLEASE DON'T ASK ME WHAT YOU SHOULD DO REGARDING WHETHER TO BUY, SELL OR SHORT!!! i am not in the stock business.
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One of the family members of the Martins is suing the CEO for breaching his fidiciary responsibilities in regards to MMLP and its GP.
Owning MLPs has become a f*cking minefield. Every damn day its something else.
We've had SGLP associated with a parent company that turned out to be a gigantic oil speculator.
We had QELP and its CEO stealing $10mil from the company.
Now we have the Martins in a pissing contest destroying more value for unt holders.
This is a shitshow.
I learned my lesson with SGLP, when there is a flopping stock-stay the f*ck away. Someone always gets the information illegally and shorts it to the uninformed masses.
This is fine because the SEC does nothing.
MLPs have become investing deathtraps. The high yields lure you in and then kill you with principal destruction.
Nobody here can honestly say these things are worth buying when they lose 2% or more day after day. Nobody gives a damn about earnings, distribution increases, yield, fundamentals or anything else. The market is controlled by robots all doing the same shit. If the robots say sell-they sell...
What's the lawsuit about...what did the ceo do?
A thing that I find very annoying is that none of the guys running an MLP or GLP comes out and says something about the current state of affairs in our sector. Where are these people? The sector has completely disintegrated and its just silence. Especially some of the harder hit names: APL, CEP, TPP, ETE, and many others. How can they stand by idly while the entire sector collapses?
Joe,
The 8K was filed last night.
Mr. Pipes
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1176334/000095013408016369/d60235e8vk.htm
Martin down 4.50. Still no news
Joe-read the 8K
Things weren't this bad during the Enron days. This is horrendous.
thanks guys...reading as i type
Seems like a family pissing contest, but I'm not a lawyer, so what do I know...
The Martins are real genuises. They have just destroyed their net worth by $18,000,000.00
Keep up the good work shitheads!
Many MLPs have the following issues:
1) Large debt, some of which is financed at low legacy rates that needs to be rolled over with much higher rates.
2) Ongoing need to raise capital for projects or to refinance their revolvers... irregardless of market conditions.
3)The potentional for lower volumes due to demand destruction
4)The prospect for lower volumes due to a movement to less energy use (green adgenda)
5) The fact that many MLPs were overpriced last year, due to the carry trade, mutual funds being allowed to buy MLPS for the first time, competitive investments not attractive ( preferreds + reits ).
6) The prospect of tax selling for holders this year.
7) Shorts attacking MLPs for all of the above reasons.
8) Natural buyers of MLPs have been creamed in their MLP (+ Reit + preferred stock ) holdings this year, leaving them gun shy.
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